Being a monopoly is not against U.S. law. Using that monopoly to suppress or control other markets, however, is. In truth, government is a monopoly - at every level. They have no competition and control 100% of the market. Now who would use a monopoly in Operating Systems to control the Browser market or the Office Productivity market? Jim the future is now -----Original Message----- From: Carl Parrish To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:44 PM Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >I believe that according to the anti-trust laws. *Being* a monopoly in an >open market *is* against the law. (course I could be wrong. Memory of my >history class is foggy at best) > >Carl Parrish >Webmaster >ComputerPREP.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Jim W >Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:19 PM >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... > > >Not quite, Carl. The judge has decreed that M$ is a monopoly. The decision >about whether they violated any law is still pending. I agree that the >judge's decree seems to indicate that he believes that there were laws >broken, but until he states that in public, under the U.S. constitution, M$ >is still innocent. > >Jim > >the future is now > >-----Original Message----- >From: Carl Parrish >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:13 PM >Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... > > >> >>The courts seems to disagree with you. They've already judged that M$ did >>infact break the law. >> >>Carl Parrish >>Webmaster >>ComputerPREP.com >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Joseph >>T. Tannenbaum >>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:48 PM >>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >> >> >>They didn't "break the law", they just were not nice. >> >>Joe >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kevin >>> O'Connor >>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:21 PM >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>> Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >>> >>> >>> The buying public doesn't 'decide' ... They follow like lemmings. >>> >>> Microsoft has broken the law. There are penalties for that. >>> >>> Kevin O >>> >>> "Mark R. Myers" wrote: >>> > >>> > My vote is to do nothing and leave Microsoft alone. >>> > No one put a gun to anyone's head and said that they had to purchase a >>> > Microsoft product. >>> > No tobacco company got someone addicted to nicotine against their will. >>> > With the AOL/Time Warner merger, it will make them a much larger >company >>> > than Microsoft and should provide some formidable competition. >>> > I like free software, but more importantly, I love free enterprise. >>> > I say, let the buying public decide, not a judge. >>> > There were no lawsuits by Sony when the VHS format (invented by >>> JVC) beat >>> > out Betamax, even though Betamax was a better product. >>> > I say, let the market decide. Let the people decide. >>> > There are some Microsoft products that I do like. >>> > Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows2000 Professional (see, they >are >>> > getting into free software! :-) ) >>> > IMHO, it is the best OS that they have put out yet. >>> > But again, let the people decide. >>> > I DO NOT like Microsoft's businesses practices. I think Bill >>> Gates' parents >>> > never taught him how to "play nice." >>> > But there are other companies that I don't like their business >practices >>> > too. >>> > I purchased SuSE 6.3 (I will give all of the disks away free to >>> anyone who >>> > wants them). >>> > For some reason, I could not get it to print. >>> > I never had that problem with any other brand of Linux. >>> > When I contacted customer service via e-mail concerning the issue, as a >>> > registered SuSE users, I was informed that basic customer >>> service did not >>> > include the ability to make your computer able to print. >>> > I am sorry, but I think that printing is one of the main >>> reasons PCs took >>> > off in the first place. I consider printing to be a "basic need" of an >>> > operating system. >>> > So I disagree. I think Microsoft should be scolded for >>> predatory business >>> > practices, and that is that. Let the buyers decided. >>> > I guess I'm just too much a disciple of Milton Freedman economics. >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Furmanek, Greg" >>> > To: >>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:01 PM >>> > Subject: What shell we do with the Microsoft..... >>> > >>> > > I have great suggestion how to equalize the market MS >>> > > is monopolizing!!! >>> > > >>> > > Fine MS $15,000,000,000.00 and donate the money to >>> > > Free Software Foundation!!!! >>> > > >>> > > The Wolf >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> -- >>> Kevin O'Connor >>> >>> "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, >>> white >>> light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. >>> In >>> a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. 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