>>When I say twisted, the cables are definently twisted around each other. Ahh, you're talking about stranded wire vs. solid core. Either one can be certified CAT-5, but be sure that the connectors are for stranded wire. Most are for solid wire, and there is a difference. I've still never seen shielded CAT-5 before. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but be sure that the wire actually is CAT-5, and not CAT-3 or CAT-4. Michael J. Sheldon Internet Applications Developer Phone: 480.699.1084 http://www.desertraven.com/ PGP Key Available on Request -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of colin rasor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 20:00 To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: sheilded Cat-5 Thanks Mike The wire is going in a machine shop. Mike I might be a little confused, (please correct me if I am wrong.) When I say twisted, the cables are definently twisted around each other. The copper wire inside is not twisted and is solid, is this Cat4? Also the Wire that I have seen that claims to be shielded is coated in a foil type substance with a bare wire running on the outside of it. Of course this is all incased in you typical blue (or color of choice). The reason we worry about using "shielded" is that that we don't want to be losing any data do to RF while it is running through the shop. Conduit would be about the same price to run with labor. As the so called shielded wire. Thank you again for you input. Colin Ansel Rasor Mike Sheldon wrote: Cat-5 isn't Cat-5 unless it's twisted, the twists are what prevents interference between the pairs, as well as from outside sources. As far as shielded Cat-5? I've never seen such a thing. There was a shielded twisted pair that IBM used for token-ring, but that's Cat-4. Cat-4 is NOT rated for 100mbps Shielded Pros: Less outside interference in extremely noisy (electrical) areas. Unshielded Pros: 100mbps, much cheaper, resistant to electrical noise in all but the worst environments when properly installed. Use Cat-5 unless you're wiring a machine shop. If you're wiring a machine shop, run Cat-5 in metal conduit. Michael J. Sheldon Internet Applications Developer Phone: 480.699.1084 http://www.desertraven.com/ PGP Key Available on Request -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of colin rasor Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 17:03 To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: sheilded Cat-5 Hello everybody, I was wondering the best place to buy shielded cat5 non twisted. I am looking for around 2000ft. What are the pros to using shielded compared to non shielded? Colin Ansel Rasor _______________________________________________ Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discussthanks