My 2 cents: I AM a newbie (just ask David), and I think Perl is still the way to go. I have picked up books on Python (O'Reilly), and still found myself turning to Perl because I found it easier to understand. The selection of modules at CPAN is enormous (sp?), and there is a good chance you will find one for the task you need to do (er um, I'm still havin' a tough time finding something for SQL7). In fact, I had a need to be able to generate graphs from MySQL queries, and whatta ya know, CPAN had the modules I needed (although I had a dickens of a time getting GDGraph to go). My advice, play with them all. Find the one that makes most sense to YOU. Then take the ball and run :-) Mike mgcon@getnet.com http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon Phoenix, AZ USA