You might want to try the Linux-from-scratch HOWTO or something similar if you're truly adventurous. The best embedded demo I've ever received was the one from QNX, but I don't believe theirs is Linux(though definitely *nix). IMHO a DirectCD implementation is more of a pain than it's worth(see also in this thread the part where someone discussed how their disk started skipping/losing data at a certain temperature), especially when hard drives are cheap. Why make things harder than they have to be? > -----Original Message----- > From: Bret Lowry [mailto:warlock@ninjutsu.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 10:51 AM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Embedded Linux > > > > I'm interested in Embedded Linux also and am looking for more > information on > the subject other than information provided Corporate wierdos > trying to market > it . I'm looking for any kind of HowTos or tutorials on how > to get started with > it as well as any information as to how to go about making a > small "personal > Distro" but Compressed for smaller storage media. > Also .....Anybody familiar with Direct CD.........? I think > it would be nice to > have Linux run off CD and at the same time be able to save to > the disk Just > like Direct CD does for Wincrap. But this would actually be > running Linux from > the CD and saving to CD.Anyone feel like starting a > revolution! Oh wait > .......Linux is the revolution! > warlock@ninjutsu.org > > On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > At 09:05 PM 10/25/00 -0700, you wrote: > > >Darryl Tang wrote: > > >> > > >> Anyone doing anything with Embedded Linux? Included > with the November > > issue > > >> of Linux Journal is the first issue of Embedded Linux > Journal that talks > > >> about the explosion of Linux in the embedded devices > area. I want to learn > > >> more about this and would appreciate hearing from > persons in the area who > > >> have an interest in embedded Linux or are working in it > presently. > > > > > >It has been my desire for about three years now to have an > MP3 player > > >with several gigs of storage in a car... I had amassed the > necessary > > >hardware to build such a device when I moved to the phoenix area, > > >here, I feel, magnetic storage may be a bit of a problem > when in-trunk > > >temperatures could easily reach 140F on the hottest days... > > > > I got to looking around recently, after hearing about PC104 > in articles for > > a few years I finally looked up just what it is. And as > soon as I started > > seeing listings of PC104 cards and cases... > > > > What I'd love to see would be a nice embedded kit, > something coming with a > > small case and basic parts (including either a network > card, or networking > > built in on the main board). Something where you just add > a processor, > > memory and your choice of storage technology (3.5 or 2.5 > inch drive & a > > floppy, solid state disk drive, ROM, whatever) and presto > you've got a > > small low power networkable box. Something either under > $250-300 for the > > basic parts, or still under $500 if it's including more parts. > > > > >I know for a fact (one I learned "the hard way") that CDR's are no > > >solution to this problem either... I lost a couple of audio CDRs to > > >being left in the car .. they would just skip more and > more and more > > >when I left them in the player. Eventually I realized what was > > >happening, and havent had this problem since I started bringing > > >everything inside with me. Normal CDs to not appear to erase > > >themselves in these temperatures (120-140?), or, if they do, I have > > >not experienced it in the short duration which my normal audio CDs > > >were exposed to those temperatures. (the problem was > DEFINITLY not one > > >of exposure to sunlight, direct or indirect) > > > > I'd love to build something along the lines of a Sindwinder > box, even if > > it's coming out at twice the size that would still be a lot > smaller than > > even a mini-tower PC. And if it's low power (I saw on > Ampro's web site a > > small case designed for use as a Point Of Sale terminal, > only a 60 watt > > power supply) you could plug in several without worrying > about the outlets > > taking it. > > > > I just really like the idea though of having a couple of > special purpose > > tiny computers sitting on my desk. One acting ass a dial-up router, > > another acting as a local web server (say Apache, Zope, and > a couple of > > scripting languages, and only what's needed to support > them), one running > > MySQL to learn about SQL with.. > > > > Heh. > > > > At that rate I just spent several months free cash unless > there's some > > cheaper sources than I've found so far. Admittedly though > I haven't been > > serious enough about looking to search very hard - mostly > it's just been > > satisfying curiosity about what's out there. > > > > Though the last week or so I've been pondering the idea of > building a > > portable' computer. Not a laptop, but something reaching > back to the style > > of the early portable PC's. But a portable MP3 player > would be nice too -- > > a suitcase with a couple small speakers, and a computer and > say a salvaged > > laptop LCD monitor for viewing the playlists. > > > > > > > > > > Steven "Oh I just joined that sacred band of ''Those who > have bleed for > > their computers'' this week. My but a tiny scrape can make > a thumb bleed," > > Martindale > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >