In reply to: just loaded mandrake 7.2 and because i'm always chatting online with friends i decided to load yahoo messenger when done. to open this program i simply have to type the command from a terminal window, but if that terminal window is closed the program also closes. anyway to run a program like that without having to open the terminal window? hey, so i'm just a windows guy used to easy shortcuts. maybe i'm just tring to run too many os's over here. but at least i've got a lot covered. (In run the menu editor for the Window Manager you ar eusing and jsut put in a new menu item. There should be checkbox to indicate whether or not you want a program to run in a terminal window or not. That's how I set up Yahoo Messenger to work on my LM 7.1 and 7.2 system. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/