Where can I find SAGE[1] and NANOG[2]?  I would love to check them out for 
confirmation.

At 3/14/01 11:59 PM, you wrote:
>Am 13. Mar, 2001 schwäzte David A. Sinck so:
>
> > Well, see, thereby hangs a tail....providers *should* squash the non
> > routeable addresses before sending them on.  If you get this traffic
> > on your inbound ethX card, you know someone is up to no good and your
> > ISP is likely to suffer evil RSN.  It's been a bit since I've seen a
> > report of this, but they are there.
>
>I would think that non-routable stuff isn't routable :). I would also
>think that broadcast stuff would get squashed at every organizational
>border.
>
>That's what http://www.sans.org/dosstep/index.htm suggests. That's also
>what the router people I know suggest.
>
>OTOH, I brought broadcast packets up on SAGE [1] recently and it was
>mentioned that customers go after their providers if blocking is done. It
>was mentioned that there are many threads about this on the NANOG [2]
>mailing list, including a recent piece about a provider being sued because
>they weren't allowing broadcast m$ traffic. Appears the suers had offices
>in different geographical locations and were using NETBIOS over IP
>broadcast to connect via "network neighborhood". Personally, I say toss
>'em off the network for gross stupidity.
>
>I haven't confirmed these threads actually exist as I haven't taken time
>to search the NONOG archives.
>
>ciao,
>
>der.hans
>
>[1] Sytem Administrator's Guild from USENIX, the *NIX association.
>
>[2] North American Network Operators Group, e.g. network dudes.
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