"Derek A. Neighbors" wrote: > > > There's got to be room for compromise here as well. There are times when > > Free Software isn't necessarily appropriate. That probably isn't due to > > the software itself, though. For instance, I really want my tax software > > to have a warranty. At the same time I want something that runs on a Free > > Software OS. Maybe it could be done with a Free Software licence such that > > I think RMS would say there is no situation where > Free Software does not apply. > And this is why the free software ideal is such a problem. RMS takes a very idealistic view and for someone who can hold those convictions that is fine. Unfortunately, in the real world ideals are virtually impossible to achieve. Open Source ackowledges this fact free software does not. This does not mean that RMS and the FSF should not try as they certainly should but it does mean that they should better pick their battles. Free software and open source have largely the same goals but open source is not so focused on such an extreme idealology. It still has one (to most business people anyway) but is more willing to make tradeoffs to achieve some benefit without completely losing site of the goal. By inciting battle between the free software and open source camps and using FUD tactics the FSF is doing far more damage then good. There is a common enemy and that should be the focus. This free software / open source debate is destructive especially since all free software is also open source software. Whether the FSF likes it or not the term Open Source is widely accepted and is going to continue to be accepted because it is willing to compromise enough to allow businesses to participate. Without that participation we wouldn't have anywhere near the level of penetration for free software that we are currently seeing. I know business is a bad word around the free software world but even the FSF must recognize that without business usage then their ideal can never be attained. > > the warranty is only in effect if certain aspects of the Free Software > > guarantees haven't been exercised. I think, however, we're going to have > > significant difficulties getting an accounting software company to buy > > into that. Please feel free to prove me wrong :). In such a case I would > > still like to have source code in order to submit bug fixes, but I could > > live without it. > > In this case, I think the right answer is the IRS > should be providing you tax software. It should > be both open and free. > > Derek Neighbors > derek@gnu.org > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Kimbro Staken Chief Technology Officer dbXML Group L.L.C http://www.dbxmlgroup.com