moin, moin, I've mentioned this to several people who wanted to see it when I dug it up. Also with our proposed NPO we might want to look at Vorbis on the NPO list. Finally, with the Free Software vs. Open Source debate I thought I'd add something fun :). Quoting RMS being quoted in the interview[1]: Anyway, if and when you announce a different license for the Vorbis code, feel free to mention that I agree with the decision, as long as you make it clear I support "Free Software" and not "Open Source", and don't imply I agree that there is such a thing as a "Linux operating system". Ain't that fun? :) OK, so this pretty well proves the point of those saying that Open Source is what we should be shooting for. I still love it, though :). Remember to join the NPO effort on the NPO list: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/npo ciao, der.hans [1] http://www.binaryfreedom.com/content.php?content_id=26 -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Aligo.com # Like the maid, I don't do (M$)Windows. - der.hans