I run 2.4.2 & 3 on quite a few boxes running Sid, with only minor (expected)
problems.  As long as you get everything in a working state and only use
apt-get after you've tested it on an isolated box first, everything works
nicely.  Though I have to say, the only reason this was done was for time
constraints.  It's a hell of a lot easier to apt-get dist-upgrade a box to
get the software you need in .debs than it is to custom compile everything
for each server.  I'm seriously looking at maintaining our own set of
packages with our own apt source, I think that's the way to go for ultimate
maintainability and ease of administration across multiple servers with
different roles.  This way you could run a more stable base OS, and only add
the packages needed for a servers role.  Something like:

apt-get install task-custom-web-server
apt-get install task-custom-db-server
apt-get install task-harden-db-server
... etc.

Some other ideas include having reference machines which are essentially
"Golden Images" for your apt source.  When a package is installed on this
server it gets added to the appropriate apt source for it's role.  Any level
of automation is possible here, though you have to be careful with this sort
of thing.  There are many other possibilities for this type of
administrative automation.  The concept of having a reference server which
is replicatable, especially on install is very attractive in an environment
where you may have to build new servers constantly, or re-build servers for
different roles, etc.  It's even very attractive for a workstation
reference, where you can be sure that everyone is working in a common
evironment (at least to begin with.)  Anyway, I'd like to make this a real
project, maybe others would be interested in contributing.

Blake Barnett
Sr. Unix Administrator
DevelopOnline

-----Original Message-----
From: meg@cs.csoft.net [mailto:meg@cs.csoft.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:25 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Debian & 2.4 kernel


I am in the process of testing 2.4 kernels on my Debian boxes, and
if I remember correctly from the days of upgrading to 2.2, I have
to point my apt at the unstable archive.  Is this correct?

I have no problems installing the kernel, but iptables seems to rely
upon a newer version of libc6.  Am I correct in understanding
the easiest way is to just do a update from the unstable
archives?  If so, as anyone ran into any probs in doing so?

v/r
Mike
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