On my earlier note about going so far east for th picnic I finally got to the park and looked around. This is awesome. They have two very large basketball courts, volleyball courts, several large baseball fields, a nice area for young kids, and the best part... A water area for playing. Not sure how to explain it. An exhibit of sorts with sprinklers and little fountains all over, and when you press certain weight sensored pads on the tarmac it begins spraying water through it's court out different fountains, almost randomly. Which is very nice, specially if it's going to be hot. This park is gorgeous and well kept. Mountain Vista Park 48th Street and Knox Road (or Ray and I-10, depending where you come from, multiple points of entry) (602) 262-6111 (South District) Basketball, lit; Picnic Area; Playground; Restrooms; Softball, lit; Volleyball, lit The Phoenix Parks, Recreation and Library Department operates more than 200 parks throughout the city, including six desert-mountain parks. (See Mountain Parks listing) City parks are open to the public from 5:30 a.m. to midnight daily. Alcohol permits for Phoenix parks are available at all Parks District Offices (see park offices listing) and at the Parks, Recreation and Library Department on the 16th floor of Phoenix City Hall, 200 W. Washington St. Permits are $10.00. Beer is permitted only in outdoor facilities and no glass containers are permitted. /* Are these permits per group of so many people? Or per person? The Parks, Recreation and Library Department offers a variety of volunteer opportunities for persons ages 13 and older. Call (602) 262-4530, (602) 262-6713 (TDD) for more information. http://www.ci.phoenix.az.us/PARKS/parks.html though I'd really like to go here because it's so nice and close to my house, I'm still rooting for encanto, because of it's central location. But otherwise, this I feel would be nice.. Like I said, it's over 7.5 acres, so it's plenty big. courtesy of Jim: > > Also, since this is a pot-luck, those of you who are bringing food, lemme > > know via e-mail -- I'll post it as an html file on my site. > > > > URL: http://psy.ed.asu.edu/~phoenix/potluck.html -- "Ah, lives there a man with soul so dead, who never to himself hath said, as he hunched and rolled in his comfortable bed: To hell with rent...I'll drink instead!"