Theres a beautiful irony in that. Most of the people who are running the SMTP servers have some other method (constant connection, for example) of avoiding the problems they themselves are so skilled at creating, so they havent even bothered adressing the issue. Just another example of how screwed up the internet gets when the openness is lost. William Lindley wrote: > I've found LOTS of info (on Google et al) about how to set up a Postfix > *server* to require POP-before-SMTP... > > BUT NOWHERE is the answer to: > > * How do I set Postfix to login to SMTP before sending mail? -- jkenner @ mindspring . com__ I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| To Build A Better Future. |