Well, yeah, but what about the "S" in SMTP? :-) (hint: it doesnt stand for secure!!) The net, and BBSes before it, used to be a place that, while filled with its own darkness, wasnt so plogged with daily crap. I say we just kick the damn moneychangers out of the temple entirely, and run it like a temple again :-) Patrick Fleming wrote: > It prevents people from arbitrarily using a machine as a SMTP server who > don't belong on it though... Yahoo uses it, and before I began running my > own SMTP server, I had to deal with the login before sending scenario. > On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Jason wrote: > > Theres a beautiful irony in that. > > Most of the people who are running the SMTP servers have some other > > method (constant connection, for example) of avoiding the problems > > they themselves are so skilled at creating, so they havent even > > bothered adressing the issue. Just another example of how screwed up > > the internet gets when the openness is lost. > > William Lindley wrote: > > > I've found LOTS of info (on Google et al) about how to set up a Postfix > > > *server* to require POP-before-SMTP... > > > BUT NOWHERE is the answer to: > > > * How do I set Postfix to login to SMTP before sending mail? -- jkenner @ mindspring . com__ I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| To Build A Better Future. |