*!* From: Trent Shipley *!* To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us *!* Subject: Was Geek Jobs *!* Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:14:02 -0700 *!* Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us *!* Are computer geeks (outside of webdom) having more unemployment troubles than *!* the rest of the population? The economy sucks for everybody. *!* Maybe its just that this is the first time that computer geeks have really *!* been in sufficient supply relative to demand that they are feeling a *!* recession? *!* Another part of it may be that the computer-geek community really rode the *!* internet bubble in the late 1990's and there are jobs but the pay has come *!* back down into the realm of sanity. The result is that much of Geekdom needs *!* to find salaries that sadly no longer exist. *!* (I am pretty certain that the Pointy Haired Managers and Evil Queens of HR *!* have yet to discover that bright high-school kids can be hired part time to *!* do 50% of the IS/IT workload! [and next 45% can be done by the same kids *!* after they have three to five years of experience]). And who will lead them? Who will be responsible to stay late? Who will be there at 8:00am and 2:00am as may be needed. HS kids should be mentored and used to supplement only. Mission critical systems need mission oriented professionals who need mission oriented compensation! Keith