Carl Parrish wrote: > it would almost be worth setting up a M$ box > to learn how you do the voodoo that you do to > get that to work. I think it's more a matter of what you DON'T do. MS software is vulnerable to a sloppy driver, a corrupt DLL, or whatever. People load all sorts of junk onto their machines, and a MS system -- especially in the 9x series -- is going down any time an application goes stomping through the petunias. And of course the 9x systems tend to have a different grade of usage -- more toys and frivolous, ill-thought-out applications. I gather that the NT series systems are capable of staying up more or less indefinitely if you run a conservative mix of applications, but the unix-type systems tend to protect themselves from applications a little better. So the odds are better with the unices, but that doesn't mean MS uptimes always have to be terrible. I also have heard of MS systems staying up for months. Of course that comes to an end when you want to do certain types of upgrades, but even unix-type systems *occasionally* need an administrative bounce. It's a design feature of an MS system to have the OS much more tightly entangled with the applications, because the purpose of the OS is to SELL the applications by making them look as good as possible. This happens to be very successful, in terms of the performance you get as long as the system stays up. But it also increases the need for administrative bounces, and the somewhat increases the OS vulnerability to application misbehavior. You pays your nickel and you makes your choice. Room for both, in my opinion. Vic