Isaac Sparrow wrote: > > > > I won't join in the thought that their software stinks - > > it doesn't - there are some excellent features and they do keep > > improving it and they usually work backwards and actually implement base > > features by the second or third update/service release/service pack. > > > I'm sorry. I know for a fact that MS software stinks. Sure there might be > some individual applications from MS that run fine, but as a whole their > software stinks. By software I also include the operating system. > > Some examples: > > The operating system (Win XP) sometimes refuses to recognize the usb mouse > when starting the system. Never happens on my linux box. > > Win XP reboots the machine out of the blue (who knows why). My Linux box > never does that... -------- You can't seriously expect Windows XP to be stable - it's not even had a service pack to fix the bugs yet. Win2K SP1 or SP2 are stable. -------- > > Internet Explorer is a security risk (can't be denied). -------- all browsers are security risks. IE has more people looking at it for vulnerabilities. All in all, it's a decent browser and the best at XML -------- > > IIS is a security risk (can't be denied). My apache logs during the last > NIMDA outbreak were full of attempted IIS exploits. Sure you can get a patch > from MS, but will it break IIS all together? There first patch for NIMDA did > just that. -------- agreed -------- > > Outlook - need I say anything about this one? -------- Outlook is far and away the best email client on any platform. Have to install the email attachment security patch to keep it from auto-executing attachments though. It's lightening fast - stable - capable of imap/pop/imaps/pop3s certificates, ldap, html, and on and on. Nothing else comes close and I have used a ton of programs and I personally have broken the MS habit and simply use Netscape on linux but that's not because it's better. -------- > > I run Win95/98/NT4/2000/XP in the shop here for testing purposes. When it > comes to real work I write code on my linux boxes and run servers on Solaris. > > Speaking of software. Win2k copied their tcp/ip stack code from BSD. So that > is an example of good software. > > As for me, I will not pay money to Microsoft to be their alpha/beta tester. > > Just my 2 cents worth :) ----------- Hey, I won't beta test Microsoft software for free - definitely would not pay to do that. Windows 2000 Professional is rock solid. Windows 2000 server is kind of awesome with dynamic dns, and ability to speak to *nix, Macintosh, Novell, roaming profiles, terminal server, etc. but that doesn't always justify the cost. That also doesn't mean that I haven't retired fully licensed WinNT 4.0 servers and installed Linux in it's stead...I've actually done that twice in the past 3 months. Funny thing is - if there were a decent GUI mail client for linux - I would say that linux rules not only servers but also desktop environment. Craig