If you want to position Linux against MS to the general public, then you have to show apps that allow one to do everything that a MS machine can do. Word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, database, email, Internet browsing, graphics, photo editing, games, etc. in a GUI environment that looks like Windows (so I don't have to learn a new GUI!). A comparison between the top 10 selling consumer software packages (with prices) and the Linux equivalents (should be better not just equivalent to make the sale) with prices would make a good argument. Put all these Linux packages on a machine, show the hardware/software cost is much less than the equivalent MS machine, and you have a demo. Of course, a savvy consumer will ask about support.......and the answer will be????? You might even be able to sell a few bundled systems if there were some support available. I wonder what the split is between the MS and Linux sales for Dell?? Just my 2 cents. Mark Phillips > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Derek > Neighbors > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:38 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Possible project (was Re: US states want MS Office ported > toLinux (fwd)) > > > What is it that you are gonna demo exactly? Im just curious, > as having a > few people stand around a terminal and just bag on how > horrible microsoft > is, isnt very effective evangelism. > > Not saying that is what would be done or what is proposed, > but if there > isnt something 'specific' that one has in mind to actually > demonstrate or > speak on, I can see it easily turning into that. Not because our > representatives would want that, but generally the public is > pissed at > microsoft and if you explain that its an alternative they > will be quick to > start listing the evils m$ has done to them, and lets face > it, its hard > to not sympathize with that. ;) > > On that note, a rep from a Nashville LUG has invited some of our team > (GNUe) to come speak for them. In speaking more with their > group they > have a KILLER concept. They are doing FREE CLASSES on > GNU/Linux. Where > they make REAL course material and schedule a semester and > require a book > etc. They are then turning the courses out as free for other > LUGS to use > and are making a system to schedule classes etc etc etc. > > I think something like this would be WONDERFUL. Especially for > 'newbies'/'programmers'. I was thinking of perhaps making > course material > for a 8 or 12 week course on GNOME 101 or PYTHON 101. When I > hear things > like this Fry's marketing, it would make sense if we were > offerring such > courses to be able to offer them to 'learn more'. An install > fest for > example is nice, but it puts GNU/Linux on their machine and > then 'what do > they do with it', if we had something like LINUX BASICS or > something the > first week or two would be install and get devices working > and the the > rest of the weeks would be getting up to speed on the desktop and > environment etc... > > Just some ideas. Brian maybe sequioa could let us use some > rooms for this > kind of stuff? We could even offer the courses to their students and > their families if they so desired. > > --Derek > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Jim wrote: > > > The toughest thing to do is to get people to commit time > for an uspecified > > time. If a time gets firmed up, you can almost always get > bodies to help. > > > > On Thursday 13 December 2001 14:47, you wrote: > > > "der.hans" wrote: > > > > I might be able to get us in Frys in Tempe as well. > We've got to have > > > > volunteers who will commit to supporting the demos if > we go into Frys. > > > > > > Maybe I could commit to 4 hours if the timing were right. > > > > > > Vic > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if > your mail doesn't > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >