Mmmmmmmm brest... he said breast... now that you mention it I like it even more... No wonder they say it's sexy. Chris On Tuesday, January 8, 2002, at 12:08 AM, Jay wrote: > > > Heh, that's pretty good. :) I do have to admit though, I really don't > like the new iMac design. I like the concept, I *really* like the screen > (except for the size), and I like the specs on the machine. However, > that > "breast implant with an Apple logo" they used for a base just doesn't > impress me. :) > > ~Jay > > > > On 7 Jan 2002, Todd Hought wrote: > >> I can certainly attest to that, that Powerbook of yours is dead sexy. >> and every time I go to fry's for something, I find myself drawn to >> those >> nifty macs, they're just smooth, makes me wanna buy one, if not for me, >> for my wife, since she does most of the graphics stuff around here. >> >> However, I cannot help but put this in here, for those who may or may >> not have seen it. :-) >> >> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/01/oooh.html >> >> -T >> On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 22:58, Jay wrote: >>> >>> >>> A couple points... >>> >>> * I used Apple products exclusively from 1979 (Apple ][) through the >>> late >>> 80's. Then Apple got boring and fell behind the pack. >>> >>> * I have been a Linux zealot since 1995 and have used it exclusively >>> for >>> both servers and desktops since (although I do have VM Ware for a >>> couple >>> of Windows apps, but only run it once a month or so). I have mainly >>> used >>> Slackware, although relatively recently I've started using Mandrake. >>> >>> * About three or four months ago, I just couldn't resist the Mac OSX >>> "urge" any longer and went to the Apple Store in Chandler and bought a >>> Titanium PowerBook G4. >>> >>> * In a matter of HOURS, I was instantly re-converted to an Apple >>> zealot >>> for the desktop. I'll still use Linux and *BSD for servers, but ANY >>> desktop/portable products I buy from now on will be 100% Apple and >>> OSX. >>> >>> The early OSX releases were kinda' slow sometimes (OSX loves RAM, but >>> hey, >>> it's cheap these days). However, current OSX releases absolutely 100% >>> KICK >>> ASS - no question about it. I know of at least one other long-time >>> Linux >>> zealot, now OSX-on-the-desktop/portable zealot, on this list. In >>> reading >>> online forums, mailing lists, etc... it is quite clear that GEEKS >>> LOVE OSX >>> and I couldn't agree more. >>> >>> The system is just so perfectly seamless and beautiful. Everything >>> always >>> just works. No drivers, no hours of obscure configs, no library >>> problems, >>> no muss, no fuss. I can't stress this enough - everything just works - >>> period. >>> >>> A couple of examples... >>> >>> * I bought a new 802.11b base station. Getting my TiPB online with >>> it - >>> easy - turn on the laptop. That's it. OSX auto-finds the basestation, >>> reconfigures the OS's networking configs, all instantly and >>> automagically. >>> >>> * I took a bunch of pictures with my Sony digital camera and I needed >>> to >>> get them onto my computer. How do I do that with OSX? It was pretty >>> tough >>> - not only did I have to turn on the laptop, but I also had to plug >>> in the >>> camera's USB cable (I know, horribly complicated, eh? :). That's >>> it - OSX >>> recognized the camera, mounted it as an external drive, placed an >>> icon on >>> my desktop, launched the Image Capture app, and downloaded all my >>> pics to >>> my Pictures folder - all automagically (remember, all I did was turn >>> on >>> the laptop and plug in the camera). >>> >>> * I'm sitting at Coffee Plantation the other day and thought to >>> myself, >>> "Self, wouldn't it be neat-o if I could get online with my cell phone >>> right now?" The obvious answer was "yes, that would be neat-o." What >>> did I >>> have to do to accomplish this mess (my cell phone came with a PC data >>> cable). I plugged in my cell phone to my laptop. THAT'S IT! OSX >>> recognized >>> the device and automatically figured out that it could act as a >>> modem. I >>> clicked on the network connection icon, typed in my ISP's phone >>> number, >>> typed in my username and password (OSX can't quite guess those things >>> automagically :), and clicked "Connect." A few seconds later, I'm >>> connected. No muss, no fuss. >>> >>> * Uh oh, someone emailed me a MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint document... now >>> what. Oh! I know! I double clicked it...that's it! Yes, like it or >>> not, MS >>> Office controls the business world. And yes, MS Office runs NATIVE in >>> OSX! >>> >>> * Now I want to "get my hands dirty" and open a Bash shell, launch Vi >>> (or Emacs, but I'm not into self-mutilation) and hack up a quick >>> shell/perl/python/ruby/whatever script and make it a cron job. Hey, no >>> problem! OSX is built on a FULL COMPLETE FreeBSD system. Not only >>> that, >>> but you have total access to it. Bash? Yup. Cron? Yup. Python? Yup. >>> Sendmail? Yup. Apache? Yup. Vi? Yup. Pine? Yup. ls? Yup. grep? Yup. >>> Bind? >>> Yup. MySQL? Yup. SSH(d)? Yup. I could go on forever...you get the >>> point - >>> IT IS ALL THERE. >>> >>> * Although OSX has tons of commercial apps support (and more every >>> day), >>> let's say I prefer Gimp to Photoshop. No problem there either. I can >>> run >>> XFree86 at the same time (even interleaved with) the OSX GUI (Aqua / >>> Quartz). That's right - I can run almost all the XFree86 apps right >>> there >>> NATIVE on OSX. Gnome? Yup. Abiword? Yup. StarOffice? Yup. Xeyes? Yup. >>> XTerm? Yup. GNUCash? Yup. TuxRacer? Yup. You get the point - they're >>> all >>> there. Additionally, just like any other XFree86 implementation, I >>> can run >>> XFree86 apps from my Linux box over the network on my OSX XFree86 >>> server. >>> >>> * Just a side note, if you have used Linux for a while, no doubt >>> you've >>> seen the "less than readable" fonts that some XFree86 apps like to >>> produce. Personally, I absolutely LOVE a good looking screen with >>> excellent fonts and readability. OSX borrowed an incredible point from >>> NeXT here - the entire GUI and rendering engine is all PDF. >>> Everything is >>> antialiased, sharp, and super clean looking. Using OSX is great on my >>> eyes and REALLY is FUN and ENJOYABLE (is that sadistic?) to look at. >>> It >>> really is a great experience to read documents/web >>> sites/email/usenet/etc... on OSX. Everything just looks georgeous. >>> >>> Did I mention that IT IS ALL THERE (full UNIX and seamless GUI and >>> killer >>> apps) and that EVERYTHING just simply works? :) (Of course, the >>> UNIX >>> system gives you the ability to do everything manually and "break" it >>> if >>> you want to. All the power is there.) >>> >>> No question about it; OSX is geek paradise. Period. :) >>> >>> ~Jay >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Kevin Brown wrote: >>> >>>> Don't know much about Macs either since almost all my exp is with >>>> Intel based >>>> hardware. I guess you wouldn't, but then again, I like a box where >>>> I can. >>>> >>>>> Maybe I just don't know anything about Macs, but, do you really >>>>> upgrade them >>>>> that much? >>>> >>>>>> Very weird looking IMO. Probably runs OSX. Guess the nice thing >>>>>> is the >>>>> lack of >>>>>> wires coming out of it, but would probably not much in the way of >>>>>> internal >>>>>> upgrades do to the oddly shaped case. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/imac/ >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you haven't seen the new iMac check it out... very cool! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.apple.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You maybe asking why I posted this on a Linux list. I run Debian >>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>> on my powerbook along with Mac OS (Occasionally I do graphic >>>>>>> design and >>>>>>> I'm too attached to all my fonts, Photoshop filters, and other >>>>>>> personal >>>>>>> stuff that I'm not ready to deal with because I can't afford >>>>>>> psychiatric >>>>>>> help... he he) Linux on a mac is very cool cause of the speed and >>>>>>> performance and I'm dying to run it on a G4... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also think OS X is not too bad either... but it's super slow and >>>>>>> crashes... but fun to play with... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyways check it out or don't... >>>> ________________________________________________ >>>> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail >>>> doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. >>>> >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~Jay >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________ >>> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail >>> doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > -- > ~Jay > > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss