J.Francois. That would really be a great help. I know I would love a presentation on keeping my system healthy software wise. I'm still pretty new to software management in a unix environment. All the package managers, or just purely building from source, can make me feel uneasy. If you did this presentation, when and where do you think it would take place? I've used the ports tree before but I didn't really understand it all. I guess BSD isn't the greatest *nix distribution to use first though :). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com