Tom Achtenberg wrote: > Wrong. Some external modems are indeed > winmodems. Mostly the cheaper ones. Please elaborate -- what does this mean? First of all, are these serial-port modems? I'm assuming that they are. If USB, then the concept of a Winmodem might make some more sense ... I understand Winmodem for an internal card. Where a decent internal modem contains its basic functions internally, including the V92 stuff, a Winmodem uses the CPU and some inscrutable proprietary secret handshakes to perform the modem's functions. Thus if you don't have the right kind of driver, you're outta luck. But an external modem, hanging off the serial line -- if it's a Winmodem does it mean simply that they have obfuscated the commands for initializing, dialing, etc., so that you can't make it work without doing some wiretapping to learn their unconventional protocol? Or do they make external modems that are supposedly V92, yet have the V92 functions actually performed inside the PC? That would be tacky beyond words ... Vic