It does cost employers approx. twice an employee's salary to employ. There are other costs though that I don't believe you have taken into account. 1. Administration - Execs, secretaries, and accounting do not come for free 2. Down Time - While you accounted for benefits, I don't believe that you accounted for time when maybe there is only 30 hours of work available for an employee guaranteed 40 hours. 3. Training Costs - Besides adding to down time, training costs money in other ways. 4. Profit - A company needs to make profit. If it does not, it cannot grow and it cannot weather bumps in the economy. I agree though, more than $125/hr is close to scalping. Either they are scalping, or they are paying their employees (consultants and/or execs) to much money. Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. At 08:07 AM 3/5/2002 -0700, Derek wrote: >Just in case no one has done the math > >60,000 / 2080 (hours) = 28.85 > >Now of course there are things like a normal employers benefits (and their >tax contribution to factor in) So say you figure in 10,000 for benefits >and lump 10% for tax contribution and you are at 77,000 a year add another >10% for office supplies space etc... and you are at 84,000. > >The other way is when you hire someone you figure 30% of salary will be >needed so if the salary is 60,000 72,000 would be the outcome so the above >of 84,000 is pretty high. > >84,000 / 2080 (hours) = 40.38 > >So I am curious to those that give consultants a bad name buy wanting 100 >plus an hour. Do you really think that 60,000 is paltry salary, or do you >expect companies to burden your time without work? > >Based on these numbers anything more than 80 an hour is HIGHWAY robbery. >As you would only be working half a year to earn 60,000 or if working a >full year making 120,000 with full benefits etc included in the >calculation. I just ask that you re-evaluate bagging on 'the microsoft >tax' if you are charging more than 80 an hour and ask are you charging >'the consultant tax'? > >;) > >-Derek