Just thought I would share my experience thus far w/cox: Last week I finally jumped off the cliff and told cox (already had tv) to fire up the data side. They came out, had to run a wire to my office (house was poorly cabled), and then dropped off the cable modem as I said I would do a self install. Had already built a OpenBSD box at work the day before, complete with IPSec working (in a lab environment). Powered on the box, did a 'dhclient $ext_if' and poof I was done. Fired up isakmpd and my new pf rules (was a bit tough getting used to pfctl on 3.0). Within 15 minutes I had a tunnel to work (IPSec), and was off and running. No problems, no complaints. I have subscribed to this list for a couple years, and have heard numerous horror stories about getting connected. Now, granted, I do not use their SMTP or POP, or DNS servers. Take those out of the equation, and I have a fine connection with nothing to complain about. See my next post for a problem I am having with some pf rules. v/r Mike