Greetings, A question for you folks who are familiar with several different distros, from one who knows only Red Hat well (although I've played with Mandrake and a couple of others in times past): Are the following statements true in *most* distributions: o Both Gnome and KDE are available. o In Gnome, where offered, there is a sub-menu off the "foot" menu to the KDE menu set. o In KDE there is not a sub-menu that leads to the Gnome menu set. I'm writing some material wherein I have to make some general statements about such matters, and don't have access to any running distro other than Red Hat 7.2 right now. I can (and will) answer some questions about KDE if I just log off and login under KDE, but I'm not in a position to do that right now, being in the midst of a heap of work, so I'm batching my inquiries for investigation later. Thanks for your observations as always. Regarding my brief survey of desktop environments and backup methods, I found that there are almost as many preferences as there are persons who responded. I consider this to be a Good Thing, because it's a testimony to the flexibility of Linux. As in Perl, There's More Than One Way To Do It.