Since I've been exploring GNOME in connection with the work I've been doing, the last week or so I've made a bunch of agreeable changes to my GNOME configuration, which I use in preference to KDE. I hadn't logged off or rebooted in a while, but yesterday when I did, and logged back on, I found that none of my panels started up. (I have four of them.) Everything else seems to be working. The desktop itself and Sawfish are both fine, including all the Sawfish key bindings I've set. GNOME knows about my workspace and viewport definitions. XEmacs is in my autostarts, so I am able to get stuff done, move things to viewports, etc. The only problem is neither my main panel nor any of the three custom panels I've added start. One thing I dislike about GUIs like both GNOME and KDE is that they try to hide things from users. This is fine for most purposes, except for when things go wrong. Then you have no idea where to look for traces of the problem. In this case I have no clue. Yet. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ