Lynn> /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 noauto,user,ro,loop 0 0 Lynn> /dev/burner /burner iso9660 noauto,user,ro,loop 0 0 >> I took the loop out of the options ... John> I checked the docs and notied that was to John> specify the loop device. Is this a loopback John> device or something different? I really don't know. It's an option I inherited from the CD-Writing-HOWTO and something someone I used to work with handed me as needed when mounting an ISO file image. I guess I *assumed* it would be needed also for the mechanical device. It's been working with that option for a long time ... sort of. Until a couple of days ago when I noticed it wouldn't cough up the device when I tried to eject it. So I got rid of the loop option, and they both work fine. Guess I don't need it. Some things I am content just to make them work without getting to the bottom of why. Too many fires lately. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ