this is something that a senior cox engineer brought to my attention. we need to commission or present a white paper on the viability of linux within the cox.net system. Reason is this: they are running some windows servers and the techs are starting to look at alternatives. if we can convert cox.net to 100% linux (or as close to that as possible), it will free up some time spent troubleshooting server problems and let the techs actually work on real problems for a change. We would need to have a focus for the paper (as seen from a suit's point of view: "how much is this going to cost?" and also from the technician pov: "how easy is it to setup?"). Personally, I feel we need as much data as possible to support a premise for getting cox.net switched over. I've already run across a few UNIX heads in the tech support staff and 1 or 2 linux users that run at home. if management and the stockholders can be convinced, well..... just a few thoughts. Technomage -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6