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I would have to agree with that. The last company I worked for used 
exclusively Toshiba laptops, and switched to Dells. They were absolutely 
horrible. But the Toshiba's were tried and true work horses.
I personally own two IBM Thinkpads and wouldn't ever own anything else.
Though KDS has some very nice laptops out now. My favorite are the Thinkpads.

I use a 600E, Pii 400 with 288mb ram and a 18gb hdd and everything in it works 
with linux great. I use only home brews of slackware. And none of my machines 
have ever seen windows, so I can't tell you how it behaves in that respect.
The only part of my 600E that didn't work was the modem, (mwave) which now has 
kernel support! Though I use a Xircom 10/100/v.90 cardbus card, so I haven't 
tried the mwave anyway.

It uses the neomagic driver, or the frame buffer, both work great.
I have seen them around for sale in the $300-700 range... I absolutely love 
it!

nathan

Am Dienstag 11 Juni 2002 10:35 nachmittags schrieb Mike Butash:
> Depends what you want to spend really.  I bought one of the satellite
> 5005-507's with the gf4 video that rocks.  You can't beat 1600x1200 on a
> laptop with a burner for friendly backups on the fly or lan gaming on the
> clock getting decent framerates with 4xAA turned on.  I've heard of bios
> issues with lockups and the proc running at a lower frequency, but honestly
> I've never had a bit of problem with it.  ACPI gets a bit flakey in XP as
> the display won't shut off (only the screensaver will kick in), but im sure
> that's more M$'s fault than Toshiba's.
>
> 	Not sure how the newer dell's are, but my company uses dell exclusively,
> and just about every laptop ive seen floating around is broken, usually
> with a keyboard.  The RMA fix?  Replace the motherboard in them
> systematically. My partner's won't post before shutting itself down
> currently...  I've got an inspiron 8000 that locks constantly on me, so
> much I use my satellite more for work.  I reboot the Satellite every few
> weeks, even in and out of sleep mode daily, never hard shutdown.  Only
> problem with the satellite is no serial port which makes configuring
> routers difficult, but I got a usb serial adapter for 30 bucks that works
> flawlessly for that.  My satellite also cost about 1200 less than a
> comprably equipped dell inspiron.
>
> my two cents...
>
> -mbutash
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Logan
> Kennelly
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: New Notebook Recommendations?
>
>
> I am looking into buying a new notebook computer for use as a
> general-purpose machine.  One of my primary uses on the old laptop was
> for testing new *nix systems (FreeBSD, various distributions of Linux,
> etc.).
>
> I am considering buying from PC Club (www.pcclub.com), but if anybody
> else has any suggestions, I am willing to listen.
>
> The question I am more interested in, however, is whether I should go
> with an Intel or an AMD mobile processor.  Intel seems to have some very
> nice features for their mobile line, but I have been unable to locate
> some good comparisons of the two.  If somebody on the list has
> researched this item, I would love to hear from you.
>
> Thank you ahead of time.
>
> PS: I would really love an Apple system, but then I couldn't use it as
> test bed.  Still, if someone can sell me on Mac OS X . . .
>
> PPS: I am sorry that I butchered the English language in the above message.
> I am hungry, and my brain is not working properly.
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