well, if anyone didn't catch the 5 PM news, it appears that the ASU computer lab and some of the administration machines were hacked into by someone representing the russian mafia (thats what they said on the news anyway). make take a look for it on www.phoenix360.com or any of the other news statiosn that have web pages. Technomage p. incidently, those machines were apples running a pre-OSX OS -- I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own - No. 6