Excellant information Alan, completely agreed that the first step is nailing down the location, and we need to get moving on sponsorship ASAP. On a related note, is PLUG a not-for-profit? If so, is it allowed to accept cash donations? Are they tax deductible? What about a bake sale? I'm wondering what happens if we can't get space donated. Can we rent a location? Anyone know how much 2,000 square feet (?) of air conditioned space for a day is? On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 alandd@mindspring.com wrote: > As sponsor wrangler for the just completed install fest, I should make some > comments here. > > I don't know if you noticed at the last install fest the absence of any local > vendors. This was not for lack of trying on my part. Aside from needing to > overcome general ignorance about Linux, several things combined to make > getting local sponsors difficult. > > Bill and Thurm did a great thing putting the install fest together and I don't > want to diminish the great impact of what they did. One thing that hurt > sponsorship procurement was that the time the event was anounced till when it > actually occured was only 2 months. Brick and morter vendors simply don't > move that fast. At one it took me 1.5 months just to talk to the right > person. Their priorities and procedures are not geared to make marketing > decisions that fast. I just heard back from one last week about the first > install fest to say they decided not to participate ("Yes, well thanks for the > response anyway"). If you want traditional companies to sponsor, more than 2 > months is needed to turn the squeaky gears that don't run on "internet time." > > Second, I had no attendance numbers to point at, no track record that would > tell the vendor what bang he will get for his sponsorship buck. That is > resolved somewhat with the numbers from the last event. > > Third, and in this case, most important, it is difficult to go to the vendors > without a solid date, time and location. This was not a problem at for the > last event but it still is a problem for this one. Sponsoring a club event is > already low on the priority list for a vendor and then saying that the date > and place is not confirmed will not help. Until date and place are "real," I > would not want to go asking for sponsorship of a "vapor" event. > > In summary, before vendors will take the sponsorship opportunity seriously: > 1 - Date and place must be set. > 2 - Projected attendance must be defined (we have a good track record from the > last event). > 3 - Local store-front sponsors need time and prodding to make participation > decisions. This means and date and place must be set so we can work on the > local sponsors starting NOW or we will be too late. > 4 - A real web site with event specific content must be available to tell the > vendor "See, don't you want to be a part of this?" We have the content from > the previous event but nothing sold on this event yet. > > This is just my observations and opinion based on my sponsor wrangling > experience for the last install fest. Someone with more charisma or real > marketing experience would probably get better results than I did. I'm just a > geek asking for free stuff. YMMV. > > Alan > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 00:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Robert Bushman > wrote: > > ---- > > - Verify site (GCC Student Union?) and date (28 Sep?). > > ---- > > Open Volunteer Slots (verified): > > - Sponsor Wrangler > Contact companies regarding sponsorship. > Alan has been mentioned as a good resource > for contacts. > > ---- > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > ------------------------------------------------------------------- "We need commonsense judges who understand that our rights were derived from God," - President George W. Bush, 27 June 2002 http://www.nandotimes.com/politics/story/448758p-3591873c.html What if he had said, "our rights are derived from Vishnu?" -------------------------------------------------------------------