------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C222E5.9F0E60D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charlie, This is the kind of story I love to hear about. I am still new to Linux, but have a good understanding about computers an= d how to use them. What I am having trouble seeing is the differences be= tween what is good and/or what is bad with the programs our co-workers us= e on the daily basis. What they use, is what they have learned to use. = It is how they perform their daily task of working at a business and prod= ucing a profit for that business. What is really good for the co-workers to use? Is the time to unlearn th= e co-workers, out weighed by, what they are using now with all the headac= hes? Yes, I know the great advantage of not having to think about licens= ing issues, so let's not use that point here. You see, I detail with peo= ple on a daliy basis who do not what to understand how this works. Just = that they can continue to use, what they have been using. I am not taking sides here, I just do not see the light at this point. I= know the light will appear, when the puzzle is complete. Maybe if I und= erstand what are some the typical functions your colleagues doing and how= this relates to M$ programs. Then may be I can complete this puzzle. Regards, Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: charlie bullen Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 11:41 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Linux At Work This morning I came in to find a whole office of aprox 15 co workers not =20 working. We depend on 3 things to work, Email, various browser based prog= rams =20 running on our intranet and various browser based programs running on the= =20 public internet . Of course, my computer (Suse 8.0 KDE 3.0 desktop) was =20 fully functional and all my colleagues were mystified. They all lined up = to =20 take turns at my workstation doing their most time criticle functions. This was a great opportunity because I wanted them to experience how grea= t the =20 multiple virtual desktop aspect of linux is as we each have at minimum 4 =20 separate functions, each requiring multiple programs and browser windows.= =20 That was a real hit. Just Monday, I was talking with our general manager and she was asking wh= at =20 the real practical aspects of linux were and I was explaining about the =20 avoidance of Microsoft licensing issues, the added reliability and the =20 virtual desktop idea. She was real receptive. This morning the owner gave me an old PC to use for linux terminal server= =20 experimentation. The root cause of the problem this morning was actually only indirectly a= =20 windows problem. We have a SonicWall that isolates the windows workstatio= ns =20 behind it and something broke down in the communication between it and th= e =20 Cisco router. But perhaps if windows workstations were not so vulnerable = to =20 viruses etc, then wouldn't have had the problem in the first place. Anyway linux came through again and several users who had never used a li= nux =20 workstation were impressed as was management. Later Charlie ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't p= ost to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C222E5.9F0E60D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Charlie,
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This is the kind of story I love to hear about.
 
<= DIV>I am still new = to Linux, but have a good understanding about computers and how to use th= em.  What I am having trouble seeing is the differences between what= is good and/or what is bad with the programs our co-workers use on the d= aily basis.  What they use, is what they have learned to use.  = It is how they perform their daily task of working at a business and prod= ucing a profit for that business.
 
What is really good for the c= o-workers to use?  Is the time to unlearn the co-workers, out w= eighed by, what they are using now with all the headaches?  <= SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes, I know the grea= t advantage of not having to think about licensing issues, so let's = not use that point here.  You see, I detail with people on a daliy b= asis who do not what to understand how this works.  Just that they c= an continue to use, what they have been using.
 
I am not&nb= sp;taking sides here, I just do not see the light at this point.&nbs= p; I know the light will appear, when the puzzle is complete.  Maybe= if I understand what are some the typical functions your colleag= ues doing and how this relates to M$ programs.  Then may b= e I can complete this puzzle.
 
 
Regards,
Darren

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----- Original Message ----- From:<= /B> charlie bullen
Sent: Wed= nesday, July 03, 2002 11:41 AM
T= o: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Linux At Work
 
This morni= ng I came in to find a whole office of aprox 15 co workers not
workin= g. We depend on 3 things to work, Email, various browser based programs <= BR>running on our intranet and various browser based programs running on = the
public internet . Of course, my computer (Suse 8.0 KDE 3.0 deskto= p)  was
fully functional and all my colleagues were mystified. T= hey all lined up to
take turns at my workstation doing their most tim= e criticle functions.

This was a great opportunity because I wante= d them to experience how great the
multiple virtual desktop aspect of= linux is as we each have at minimum 4
separate functions, each requi= ring multiple programs and browser windows.
That was a real hit.
<= BR>Just Monday, I was talking with our general manager and she was asking= what
the real practical aspects of linux were and I was explaining a= bout the
avoidance of Microsoft licensing issues, the added reliabili= ty and the
virtual desktop idea. She was real receptive.

This = morning the owner gave me an old PC to use for linux terminal server
= experimentation.

The root cause of the problem this morning was ac= tually only indirectly a
windows problem. We have a SonicWall that is= olates the windows workstations
behind it and something broke down in= the communication between it and the
Cisco router. But perhaps if wi= ndows workstations were not so vulnerable to
viruses etc, then wouldn= 't have had the problem in the first place.

Anyway linux came thro= ugh again and several users who had never used a linux
workstation we= re impressed as was management.

Later

Charlie
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