With a constant download (200kbps), I could watch packet loss increase as soon as I started the MP3's and go back to 0% as soon as I stopped. I got rid of the wireless card and replaced it with another WAP (total of two WAPs). No drivers to worry about and it's platform independent with a web interface for configuration. Blazing speed while I play music. This tells me the problem was inside the beige box, not outside. George Tom Emerson wrote: > > Bryce, you turned on a light-bulb for me. My rapidly aging, dim memory > just regurgetated something pertinant: > > George, any 2.4 GHz devices around the house, other than the WAP? > > During lower bandwidth usage, the radio bandwidth occupied by the WAP & > NIC exchange will be as narrow as the radios are capable of. (not that > unlicensed wireless network gear is always all that "clean" with it's use > of spectrum!) > > During high network bandwidth traffic, the radio bandwidth "spreads out", > gets wider (this is easy to see if you have a spectrum analyzer handy!). > This "wider" radio signal can interfere and be interfered with by devices > operating on adjacent channels, or devices operating on the same channels > (even spread spectrum radios, when in close proximity, like across the > living room). > > If you have any other wireless devices around the home, turn them all off, > see if the problem persists. > > We've seen several instances of 2.4 gig wireless telephones whacking > wireless network devices. Typically the sympton is really quite odd, > looking more like an intermittant hardware failure or as you are thinking > bus interupt contention issues. Check for interference ... > > Oh, another thing, some wireless cards, you can increase their radio power > output levels, same for some WAP. Don't do it, this increases adjacent > channel interference, increases it a lot. (and makes really nasty > out-of-band noises). > > - tom e. > ---------- > > On 14 Jul 2002, Bryce C wrote: > > Here's an interesting one. Not expecting any answers but when the power > was switching on and of again, my WAP was not on a UPS and so when it > cycled, my 2.4Ghz phone rang. Only it. Yes I know the both run in the > same unregulated airspace but It was still quite odd. > > On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 19:52, James Durham wrote: > > Is it possible these two cards are just set too close in the computer? I know > > I had a problem with TV reception when I had it plugged in near my Video > > cards. I moved it a couple PCI slots over and saw a drastic improvement. > > > > On Sunday 14 July 2002 06:41 pm, George Toft wrote: > > > I apologize for not being clear. The MP3's are being played on the > > > local workstation through the sound card. I also have a TV card > > > (Hauppage WinTV), and when I went to watch the Diamondbacks tonight, my > > > network QOS went to hell. In summary, whever I play MP3's or use the > > > WinTV card (which outputs sound through the sound card), the wireless > > > card starts dropping packets. > > > > > > Possible interrupt conflict? > > > > > > George > > > > > > Bryce C wrote: > > > > Besides copying them to your HD locally, no. I only have my personal > > > > experience to give. I have found that often, mp3 playing programs are > > > > actively streaming the audio the entire time. This means tremendous > > > > amounts of traffice because every second, roughly 128Kb has to be > > > > transferred and no matter what you say or the 802.11b rating is, your > > > > not going to get 11Mbs because that's megabits and TCP/IP is, as far as > > > > I know, the most inefficient protocol in use. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 16:45, George Toft wrote: > > > > > I wish I were normal - but then life would be boring. > > > > > > > > > > I just set up a wireless network using a Linksys WMP11 (PCI card) and a > > > > > WAP11. I get clear communication under normal conditions: > > > > > wlan0: 34. 53. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 36. 54. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 53. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 52. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 53. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 38. 57. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 52. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 36. 55. 0% loss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I play MP3's using xmms, I get packet loss: > > > > > wlan0: 30. 46. 0% loss > > > > > wlan0: 32. 48. 5% loss > > > > > wlan0: 26. 41. 6% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 52. 8% loss > > > > > wlan0: 30. 47. 5% loss > > > > > wlan0: 36. 54. 5% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 51. 8% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 52. 10% loss > > > > > wlan0: 34. 52. 5% loss > > > > > wlan0: 36. 56. 5% loss > > > > > wlan0: 32. 49. 1% loss > > > > > > > > > > What you are looking at is the interface (wlan0), link quality, signal > > > > > level, and packet loss from my workstation to the WAP. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a suggestion how I can listen to MP3's and not have > > > > > packet loss? > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bryce Chidester > > > > Network Administrator > > > > CoBryce Communications > > > > Bryce AT BryceCo DOT Net > > > > http://www.bryceco.net > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss