Am 01. Sep, 2002 schwätzte Dennis Kibbe so: > On Sunday 01 September 2002 05:07 am, you wrote: > > We have lots of people starting to use GNU/Linux, but we haven't got the > > support network they need to bootstrap themselves. 'RTFM' and 'google for > > it' aren't what the new people need. Those who can bootstrap themselves are > > more likely to make it anyway. We need to move beginners into the > > intermediate area, or at least into acquainted. > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > This is exactly my experience mentoring a friend who wants to leave Windows > behind. His complaint is that the Linux community is unfriendly to newbies > (RTFM) and that you need to know too much just to understand the > documentation. There are places rumored to be nice to newbies. I haven't needed to frequent them in ages :). We should probably start working with one or two places. LinuxNewbie.org has been mentioned a few times on the list. Anyone familiar with it? Is it a well-run project? Is it helpful for newbies? Is it newbie friendly? Have they already move to 'intermediate' because the people running it got tired of explaining what a third mouse button is? We should also be helping with documentation. That's why I want the class stuff to be under a free documentation license. It needs to be a project. I'd prefer to help a project that's already underway. Is there any courseware at LinuxNewbie.org? > Also, Linux is "just different" from Windows. It's roots are firmly in a > networked from birth, multiuser, small tools heritage. Very often a Windows > user coming to Linux will intuitively do the WRONG thing and not even realize > it until someone points it out. Those're the things I won't know. m$ has been doing it wrong for years. I figured that out and thankfully never learned their ways ;-). ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ # HERE LIES LESTER MOORE # SHOT 4 TIMES WITH A .44 # NO LES # NO MOORE # -- tombstone, in Tombstone, AZ