On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Trent Shipley wrote: > any effort I make that extends or otherwise depends on > a GPLed good is likely wasted in economic terms. Incorrect. Economic utility is the sum of public and private utility. The private utility of GPL'd software is lower than the private utility of proprietary software when using the price theory system designed for industrial goods (our current system). This is significant--price theory has not yet been adapted to information goods. It does not, however, necessarily imply that there is no possible (presently undiscovered) price theory that would produce increased private utility from GPL'd software than from proprietary software. The public utility of GPL'd software (as it is currently distributed) is equal to or greater than proprietary software. My gross utility from Linux (since I do not hack the kernel) is a constant X, independent of license. If Linux were proprietary, then my net utility would be X minus price (where price is some non-negative number). If Linux were GPL, my net utility would be X minus zero. The latter is always equal to or greater than the former. If price is non-zero or if the consumer avails him or herself of the other benefits of the GPL (like modification or redistribution), then the latter is greater than the former. Economic utility of GPL'd software relative to proprietary software under industrial price theory then is indeterminate. Private utility decreases and public utility increases or remains constant. The question of economic utility requires knowing the delta of each component. Economic utility of GPL'd software under information price theory is also indeterminate, since information price theory has not yet been formalized. > Greed may not be good, but it is necessary. Incorrect. Greed is good and unnecessary. Greed is a reliable motivator. As such, it has made it possible to formalize industrial price theory. Industrial price theory is responsible for much (if not most) of the international economic growth of the 1900's. Therefore greed is good. Greed is not the only possible motivator. Therefore, if another reliable motivator exists (whether generally or in specific markets) then greed is not generally necessary. Total motivation equals greed motivation plus other motivation. Total motivation is what really matters - greed motivation is just the one that is most well understood. > [GPL] is hostile to capitalism. Under industrial price theory. > Unfortunately, if you want economic progress greed is a better engine than > mere pride, laziness, or impatience -- and altruism barely merits > consideration. Given motivators: M(g) greed M(p) pride M(l) laziness M(i) impatience M(a) altruism M(o) other M(t) total M(g) + M(p) + M(l) + M(i) + M(a) + M(o) = M(t) But I think M(p,l,i,a,o) are small, so let's just simplify that to: M(g) = M(t) May I safely assume that you are an engineer not a mathematician? While we're throwing out small parameters, can we get rid of that stupid .1415926535? ;-)