[bmike1@localhost bmike1]$ ls -l /dev/ttyS0
crw-rw----    1 root     uucp       4,  64 Apr 11  2002 /dev/ttyS0

is what my permissions say (which don't appear to be similar to your examples. 
Are they saying the correct thing? How do  I change it if not?

xwindows is being run as root? I wouldn't think so  because when I am in su 
mode it says:

[root@localhost bmike1]#

But if I am then I am. How do I log in as a user and run things as a user?

You say to run "killev"? But if I do that how am I supposed to sync my visor?

I hate being so needy!

-- 
:-)~Mike~(-:

> =====
> as user - you probably can't change them
>
> as root - you probably can
>
> it's likely that /dev/pilot is a symbolic link to the serial/USB port it
> is connected to.
>
> ls -l /dev/pilot
> lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           10 Apr 30 08:46 /dev/pilot ->
> /dev/ttyS0
>
> is a symbolic link - as opposed to
> ls -l /dev/ttyS0
> crw-------    1 craig    uucp       4,  64 Oct  2 23:48 /dev/ttyS0
>
> which is where the permissions lie.
>
> perhaps you have a process already under control of the device...try
> killev
> which will close evolution and kill all the processes.
>
> I don't run X-Windows as root so if that is what you are doing, that may
> cause some issues as well.
>
> Craig
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