Thanks, Bill. I used both of your replies to clean things up. Mailman (as user mailman) had a crontab entry, several in fact. As I don't use mailing lists, I removed them. Cleaning out the /var/log/mailman directory went surprisingly quickly with your suggested technique; not more than a couple of minutes. I then re-ran updatedb to purge those same entries from that database as well. (I use 'locate' quite often and it had become mysteriously slow. Now I know why and it's much better now.) I'm going to presume that my blanket install of "everything" in RedHat put mailman into the system in a working (crontab'd) condition but, sometime thereafter, I changed something somewhere it didn't like. All the error messages were empty, however, and I didn't bother researching the problem any deeper. I think mailman is now "off" and the quarter million empty error files cleaned up. Thanks for your help! On Thursday 24 October 2002 05:30 pm, you wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 04:00:58PM -0700, Ed Skinner wrote: > > A) What might be wrong? ('man mailman' was NFG and I didn't find > > 'mailman' in the man pages for mail, sendmail or fetchmail, -- I'm using > > kmail as my mail reader but, there again, found no reference to 'mailman' > > so I'm stumped as to who creates the entries in /var/log/mailman), and > > Okay, I re-read your post. Mailman is mailing list management software. > If you're not running a mailing list, you don't need it and can safely > 'rpm -e mailman'. And if you're interested in the documentation, it's > in /usr/share/doc/mailman- on your RedHat System. > > Hope that helps. -- Ed Skinner, ed@flat5.net, http://www.flat5.net/