I just finished putting a new hard drive with a new distro (debian) into = the mailing list server. Hopefully this will help keep the machine more up t= o date and patched. BTW the mailman packages in debian are VERY old and broken (and I have te= st=20 and unstable in my sources.list). It's much easier to just put the tar ball off of www.list.org on.... just FYI for anyone bringing up a list in the future. Brian Cluff