I appreciate everyone that had suggestions for the open office issue I was having. Here is what worked, for some unknown reason. Removed all files manually as ./setup did not work, just wanted to install another "user", no matter whether I was using /opt or /home. Shutdown for two minutes and grabbed file from website. Installed as stated on instructions. Initially, I did the same bit of stuff but I think the file from the burned CD that I had was not right or had issues. That file from CD was the second one installed. The first time installed was from Mandrake 8.2 CD. So, in essence, going to the direct source is a good thing. It now works flawless. And I take back all the bad things I ever said about the program......grumbling shouldn't be used in this context, especially when user error exists. Kimi Adams