Ed Skinner wrote: > > When an auto manufacturer builds an Edsel do we blame the mechanic at > the corner gas station? I might be tempted to switch mechanics to keep the > thing running but if Ford keeps sending out recall notices, at some point I'm > gonna start looking at a new car, maybe from Finland. > > -- > Ed Skinner, ed@flat5.net, http://www.flat5.net/ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss When you drive that car in the sand, and it gets stuck, maybe it's not Ford's fault? Why, oh why, does anyone put a database server with any interface exposed to the Internet? WTF are these people thinking? The spread of the worm is not Microsoft's fault (directly) - it is the fault of whoever put together the architecture that puts a database on the Internet without a couple firewalls and an App server in front of it. That is probably caused by the Cracker Jacks Box MCSE's that are clueless about security, which *is* Microsoft's fault as their curriculum doesn't (or didn't anyway) discuss basic security. I have a database server and an LDAP server. There are two firewalls between the Internet and the databases. And this is my home network! And that Finnish car? Hmmm... let's see, I discovered and reported two security exposures/vulnerabilities two weekends ago in SSH and MySQL. One allows you to remotely discover the root password on a system configured to block root logins, and the other allows you to recall administrator commands (which may contain passwords) as a regular user. I also discovered you can ftp into an account using Midnight Commander without presenting the credentials if you logged in once before. Some may call it a convenience - I call it a gaping hole. This is corrected in the current release. As I see it, each manufacturer has their own set of problems - it's up to us as intelligent architects to not do stupid things with our cars. George Toft Sr. Computer Security Tech