ok- i've been banging my head against the wall here for some time attempting to get this thing running on a RH 7.1 box to no avail. the web pages come up ok. for administration i can change settings and all that other good stuff. no matter how i try- it wont acknowledge that i've even tried to add members- either thru the self subscribe, or the direct -join or -subscribe email alias. the permissions seem to be correct- anyone out there with the capability to help troubleshoot this thing? a buddy of mine in TN tried to do it on his rh7.3 box, had to upgrade his python, and managed to break his system.. odd thing is i went thru the python upgrade on my system, and had no problems... thanx, DL