I have a couple questions first off I have my box set up to only go to runlevel three So it wont go to X unless I want it to. Then I setup bashrc with a few aliases one being x=startx which works great but with KDE as the default and I prefer enlightenment so I tried E = startx enlightenment which doesnt work I think it has something to do with the space but I am not sure. I dont want to change Kde as the default wm I just want to be able to alias the startx enlightenment. Now the next question I want gkrellem to start automatically when I start enlightenment. I would prefer for it to only start for Enlightenment and not if I start another window manager but if it is not possiable I will be happy if you can tell me how to get it to launch at the start of X ===== Spelling only counts when your logged in as root. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/