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who is this "nutbar" who thinks they are totoally secure? I'd like to know so 
that I can avoid meeting him unless I have reason to.

totally secure = power supply isolated, non-networked machine behind 2 layers 
of steel doors and lots of guards.

anything else is debatable.

Technomage

On Saturday 15 March 2003 03:17 am, Entelin wrote:
> I have a client I am trying to convince to install a firewall, (eather
> iptables or preferably cisco PIX). They have practicly every service
> under the sun open, the only reason their tcp netbios ports are closed
> is because cox filters them. The only reason I am having to convince
> them of anything is because they have another linux tech working for
> them and he is somehow convinced that they are completely secure "at the
> deamon level" wrote a big email to my client saying they dident need to
> install a firewall, or even close totaly unused ports on their box!
> (they even had echo and chargen open before I at least convinced them to
> close those ie: forged packet between echo and chargen = storm).
> nevermind the two root exploits their sendmail is at risk for. and the
> password sniffing of their login,telnet etc.. god..
>
> ANYWAY sorry for that rant. back on topic I was wondering if I could do
> anything with these udp ports in absence of the filtered tcp netbios
> ports. ? as in gain any kind of access or DoS.
>
> 137/udp    open        netbios-ns
> 138/udp    open        netbios-dgm
> 139/udp    open        netbios-ssn
>
> Thanks :)
>
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