Keep in mind an alternative to using RedHat's RHN Up2Date tool you can=20 mirror the RPM updates and make your own apt archive to apt-get from.=20 This way you get the joy of apt, and a local mirror all in one. http://www.dragonsdawn.net/~gordon/red-hat-apt-repository-howto/ Actually there are several of these HOWTOs. Just google "RedHat apt RPM=20 mirror" Austin PS - of course you don't have to mirror the apt archives. You can just=20 use the public ones (freshrpms). der.hans wrote: > Am 25. Mar, 2003 schw=E4tzte Derek Neighbors so: >=20 >=20 >>I still dont see how people keep red hat up to date reasonably without >>purchasing some service to make doing so reasonable. >=20 >=20 > That's fine as long as the security updates are easy to get at no cost. > Personally, I think $40/year is pretty cheap for all the software we ha= ve > available :). Yes, I know, we have debian, we have easy updates, we get= them > for no cost. Someone's paying for the bandwidth and the key is security > updates, so if a company wants to charge for a download service and peo= ple > will pay that generally gives us more resources for Free Software > development. >=20 >=20 >>I know people cry that Debian is stale, but if you know where to get >>sources.list lines generally you can find bleeding edge everything. >>http://www.apt-get.org is now around to help make people not in the kno= w, >>more informed on how to get current packaging while staying on the stab= le >>version of Debian. >=20 >=20 > Having to do this really cuts down on the beauty of apt for most people= . I'm > glad we can do it, but it's not something everyone should have to do. W= e > need a "mostly stable" dist :). testing usually is, but stability isn't= the > goal of testing. testing is the goal of testing. >=20 > ciao, >=20 > der.hans