Sorry for saying people would call you a nut then. While I may respect and even share the views of certain nuts among Linux user (or GNU/Linux as one such nut insists), I have as little patience with their ranting as I think most people would. Glad to see you were just playing up the bit some there. I've had quite a bit of success with the renting vs owning argument myself. Vaughn Treude wrote: >I meant to put a smiley after the "world domination" bit. I didn't want to >get too far into the details, particularly since I don't know how much time >I'll have to talk. What I was planning to say, given the chance, is that >the US vs Microsoft antitrust suit was a waste of time, and probably >counterproductive, since MS has switched from abusing its OEM's to supporting >anti-consumer laws such as the DMCA, CBDTPA, and UCITA, and in the ultimate >bit of silliness, has even tried to tie open source to the threat of >terrorism. I do appreciate your suggestions - especially about their rental >schemes. I see Linux as a way that people can maintain control over their >own systems and their own data. That's why Munich chose Linux, even though >the offer Microsoft made them was cheaper. > >Vaughn > >On Tuesday 15 July 2003 18:40, you wrote: > > >>I think painting Microsoft and a company out for "World Domination" will >>only make you look like a nut. While us geeks make get a smile and a >>laugh over pictures of Hitler redone with Bill Gate's face, the average >>commuter will probably tune you out as just another extremist on a >>soapbox. You have to get people to understand how Microsoft's control >>over their computer will affect their bottom line and their quality of >>life. (Particularly quality of life as people understand that their >>bottom line will normally take a hit to guarantee them comforts.) >>Discuss the ideas of having software that you only buy once and then are >>generally freely upgraded for life. (Telling them it's free to get in >>the first place may trip the too good to be true off switch in their >>minds. And Linux requires time to either install or order pre-installed.) >>Perhaps talk about Microsoft's need to have their computers phone home >>when a person is surfing the Internet and checking their honesty and >>integrity. >>Talk about Microsoft's recent problems with spammers using Windows to >>send out porn and leaving the unsuspecting computer owner (don't use the >>word "user") taking the blame for sending it. >>Talk about Microsoft's plan to have people renting their operating >>system, so even after they spend several hundred, if not thousands of >>dollars buying a computer, they still won't be able use it to do >>anything without paying Microsoft rent. [Rent vs the appearance of >>ownership (the current perpetual licensing scheme) usually raises >>hackles of people. Most people would rather own something than rent it.] >> >>I'm sure others on this list can give you some good alternatives to >>coming on and talking about Microsoft's mission of world domination. >> >>Vaughn Treude wrote: >> >> >>>Hello everybody: >>> >>>Just letting you know that I talked Ernest Hancock into having me on his >>>radio show this coming Friday, July 18th. It's on KXAM 1310 AM from 7 to >>>9 in the A.M. I'll be talking about Linux vs. Microsoft and the latter's >>>quest for world dominance. The other guest will be Stu Krone, a computer >>>security expert who will be examining the issue of vote fraud on >>>computerized polling systems. If you're up that early, I invite you to >>>listen. >>> >>>Vaughn Treude >>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >>>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>--------------------------------------------------- >>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >--------------------------------------------------- >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >