Ed> I know of at least one other reader of this list Ed> that goes to the same gym (Bally's at Cave Creek Ed> and Cactus), hence this posting. And that would be me. Eeeewwwww!! I've been going there nearly nine years, never had a problem, but you never know. Furthermore, as soon as I send this email, I'm headed over there. Ed, have you seen the six prominent bullet holes that have appeared in the glass on the east side the last couple of weeks? At first there was only one. Now there's a bunch. Bally's doesn't care. They won't fix it for months, I guarantee it. Of course the big question is how and when did they get there? I run by that window about every 50 seconds. Thanks for the warning. Time to adjust my habits. My main problem is -- where can I get bulletproof gear for distance runners? By the time I'm home I'll think of a way to tie this thread to Linux. -- Lynn David Newton Phoenix, AZ