Let me explain one of my aggravations with Linux... There are times when I want to try out a new program (which we will call program A, not original... But it will work) and I find out that there isn't a package for program A on my disco.. So I get the source and compile it. Well I find out that program A needs library B and my version of library B is only 1.2.55.3.4.1 not 1.2.55.3.4.2 that it requires. As luck would have it there isn't an update for library B on my computer so I set off to compile it too, which in turn means I need to get library C and D to get it working. I compile everything and install it, hoping that it will work, often times with varying degrees of success. Over time, my original distro, be it debian, mandrake, or whatever, mutates into some other creature all together where package management is holding on a thin thread that is drawn tight and ready to snap because of all the non distro libraries, programs, etc I've installed. How to you guys deal with this? I've tried all sorts of distos, they all seem to have this weakness, which I know is kind of the nature of an open source OS that is constantly evolving... but still, any ideas on how to make everything play nice? What distro carries the latest and greatest versions of libraries? or at least tries to.. I know its hard to keep up and make it all work. anyway... I'd like to hear your input, comments, suggestions, war stories thanks Ren Pangaea Games - Fantasy Gaming to the Extreme!! http://www.pangaeagames.com