On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 15:26, Thomas Cameron wrote: > So, after four and a half weeks of screwing with those idiots, I finally had > to fix the damned thing myself. Never again. Dell will not get another > penny from me or any of my clients again if I can help it. ----- Unfortunately, Dell's customer service has considerably turned for the worse but that slide came 2 or 3 years ago. They contract telephone support from India which is much cheaper than hiring the University of Texas students like they used to do. I remember when you could call Gateway/Dell/etc and be on the phone with support in under a minute but those days are gone - these are the days of minimal markups and hence - minimal service. Is there still a warranty on that computer - that was never really clear but the warranty terms should be fairly clear. If it is under warranty, they do have regional sales managers who can make the decision to extend coverage - I have done that with Apple. By your description, you got awful service from Dell - unfortunately, the service standards for other manufacturers don't seem to be much better. Myself, I've always gotten reasonable support from Dell but I have had similar things happen with other vendors - including Apple refusing to replace a G4 motherboard whose Firewire ports didn't work because the customer brought the computer to the service dealer 2 days out of warranty. I tend to start with lower expectations these days. Craig