The following problem is solved... But it's a wierd one and I'm wondering if it will repeat. My wife's little PII 400/100. RH9 install. Was working fine this morning, then she heard a noise "like the neighbors hammering nails in the wall but it was in the computer" (I wasn't there). Then her network connectivity stopped. Standard M$ programmed response, she rebooted. On reboot, she didn't even get GRUB, just a black screen with blinking cursor where and when GRUB should have been. I tried a few times, same black screen. Tried Knoppix: it didn't see my primary master! Massaged the IDE connectors and power connectors, retried Knoppix, ahh the partitions are back. Did an fsck -c -f on all, clean. But rebooting still gave me a black screen. Rescue disk RH9, tried both reconfig and reinstall of both GRUB and LILO, same black screen. Wiped the partitions except /home and installed Fedora. Same black screen. Then I noticed something in the BIOS that I never noticed before: you can configure the order in which the "hard drives" are accessed to find an MBR. I don't mean 1) removable 2) CDR 3) HD 4) net, I mean inside option 3, there are three more options, which was configured 1) Bootable add-in cards 2) Maxtor (SM) 3) Maxtor (PM). I don't have any bootable cards (that I know of?). Secondary Master is the wrong HD on this system, the MBR is on the Primary Master. So I switched to exactly the reverse (PM,SM,bootable), and wow, GRUB came back! Okay... So how can this be analyzed? Did the RH install work on the old (bootable,SM,PM) configuration then suddenly stop working? Or was it set to PM,SM,bootable and somehow reset? Because there was some physical noise, maybe some physical problem caused the BIOS to reset? Maybe if a drive is physically yanked, the BIOS setting automatically does some corrections, then did the wrong correction back when the HD was restored? Anyone else have this kind of wierdness? --Alexander