After I login and x is running for around 3 minutes it starts saying that= =20 klauncher can't be reached via DCOP. Last I tried using kmail it didn't w= ork=20 either (this is webmail right now).=20 Also (after my last upgrade) the only window managers at my disposal are = KDE3=20 and Failsafe. One is to big the other to basic. Geesh!=20 =20 :-)Mike(-:=20 This message has been scanned for viruses by the VEI Internet Automatic Email Spam and Virus Scanner, and is believed to be free of spa= m or viruses. Please report spam to spamtrap@vei.net. If you would like 98.9 % spam blo= cked from your E-mail then go to VEI Internet for details. Anti-spam/Anti-virus is FREE = with every account.=20 http://www.vei.net/ mailtospamtrap@vei.net