Thanks for the info, Ed. I now have a new command sequence to write down = for=20 my file; unfortunately, it didn't work for me.=20 ~ ~ Hey Mike, ~ =A0 =A0 =A0I've sometimes noticed problems with the desktop and launche= rs, more =A0so ~ with older distributions. In some cases, I think these are due to= some =A0of the ~ software updates I've applied -- updating a key piece of soft= ware =A0may ~ "depend" on another piece I don't know about and so the update m= ay not =A0be ~ 100% successful. And the more software that is upgraded, the more =A0likely this ~ will happen. This is what makes the creation of a major =A0distribution so ~ difficult. Everything has to be cross-tested and, if= a =A0problem develops, the ~ appropriate pieces replaced and then everythin= g =A0re-cross-tested because that ~ "fix" may have broken something else. ~ =A0 =A0 =A0A related possibility is that there are some "leftovers" in = the /tmp ~ filesystem. I've seen this often enough, and the "fix" is much easier t= o do ~ and much less problematic than the upgrade situation. You might want to= try ~ cleaning out the /tmp filesystem. Do this: ~ 1) Log-off. ~ 2) Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get a simple console prompt (actually, you coul= d =A0use ~ any of the first six function keys to get to any of six console =A0prompts, and ~ Ctrl-Alt-F7 will take you back to X-land). ~ 3) Login (through the console prompt) as the root user. ~ 4) CAREFULLY do this command: ~ =A0 =A0 =A0rm -rf /tmp/* ~ =A0 =A0 MAKE SURE YOU TYPE THIS EXACTLY RIGHT. IN PARTICULAR, ~ THERE MUST BE *no* SPACES in "/tmp/*". (IF THIS IS DONE WRONG, ~ THE ENTIRE SYSTEM MAY NEED TO BE RE-INSTALLED!) ~ 5) And do this command: ~ =A0 =A0 =A0sync ~ 6) Now, reboot the system. On my machine I use the following command: ~ =A0 =A0 =A0reboot ~ 7) Log-in normally and see if things are better. ~ ~ =A0 =A0 =A0The /tmp filesystem, in theory at least, "can be" discarded = every time ~ the system is rebooted. In practice, however, this doesn't always happe= n =A0(but ~ "why" I don't know). My theory is that the desktop, among other =A0tools, ~ sometimes leaves behind information in /tmp and attempts to u= se it =A0when you ~ login again. By manually cleaning out /tmp, the desktop is = forced =A0to use ~ default values again. ~ ~ =A0 =A0 =A0Good luck! ~ --=20 <:-)~MIKE~(-:> --=20 <:-)~MIKE~(-:> This message has been scanned for viruses by the VEI Internet Automatic Email Spam and Virus Scanner, and is believed to be free of spa= m or viruses. Please report spam to spamtrap@vei.net. If you would like 98.9 % spam blo= cked from your E-mail then go to VEI Internet for details. Anti-spam/Anti-virus is FREE = with every account.=20 http://www.vei.net/ mailtospamtrap@vei.net