In a message dated 1/13/2004 9:18:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, craigwhite@azapple.com writes: I had that happen on one of my Shuttle compacts and it turned out that the memory went bad. Well, I question if it's the memory, because it's good make memory (Crucial), and it worked fine until I installed Win2000. Oddly, it works fine (reboot aside) at FSB of 133, or 165 (the vastly overclockable Duron 1600 rules!), but the moment I flip a jumper to raise it another MHz, it blows out with hangs and half the memory fail at self-test. And it's always the exact failure-- picture turns off, drive clicks, reboot. It typically happens once a day, at a random time (if it happens in the middle of my favourite programme... let's just say the box will explore the amazing world of the Salt River) It's not the mobo or processor, or the video. All of which were recently swapped. I wonder if there's a "Proper Function" patch I don't have. I know, I know, it's mandrake-9.2-disc1.iso, but I'm not in the mood to take the system down and back up in a few weeks when I can get a 2.6 disc :) I think tho I'll pull out the old discs and put anything on. I'm fed up with the win2000 wallpaper I'd prefer nVidia drivers on disc because I know their Windows drivers are huge, and I only have a 44k connection. -- "What do you mean "Messiah" is not a valid career objective?"