moin, moin, ran the battery down too far during the presentation last night ( BTW, we have 3 new volunteers to help with west side activities! Look for and help build a stronger community on the west side ), so the laptop had to be booted today. That finally got me around to looking into getting pcmcia working. I had removed pcmcia support at installtime. Yeah, a foolish thing to do on a laptop. I only need pcmcia for wireless and have thus far used Knoppix anytime I needed to use wireless. Well, finally looked into it today. Took about 5 minutes to figure out which modules to load. Feeling that that wasn't good enough, I went on to install the pre-packaged 2.6 kernel from debian. X wouldn't start after that. Interesting, I thought. Turns out I now need the psmouse kernel module. Cool got that fixed. Sound wasn't working. Found the modules for that. Then when I was leaving the music kept playing after I shut the laptop. Ooops, apm isn't working. The apm module actually refuses to load as it thinks I'm missing something. I'll look into it some other time. I added sysfs, but /sys/power/state didn't allow me to change state. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.AZOTO.org/ # The only way for a woman to change a man # is if he's wearing Depends[TM] - der.hans